he had more success making that argument than romney has trying to say, no, no, no, obama's policies have made it worse. >> john harwood? >> well, gene, i would say, i think chuck's point is the right one, which is that he's got to connect bad circumstances in the economy to what obama's done. but even more important is connecting something better in the future with his own policies. the idea that tax cuts, which he hasn't been talking about all that much. he barely mentioned them in his convention speech, that's going to produce the kind of growth he's talked about. and as you know, that's not an easy case to make. some of the evidence suggests from the clinton years, it doesn't produce that. >> yeah, i agree, john. i think he does have to make that case, though. he has to make some sort of affirmative case. i really don't think it's enough for romney to point at obama and say he's doing a bad job. that hasn't gotten him over the hump. and i do think he has to say, look, here's what i'm going to do and here's how it's going to make things better. and if -- if he's going to talk abou